HomeIt's been a good long while since I've been here, and thought I'd "come back" with a question I've been pondering lately: what is the future of Ben 10? How long will Omniverse go on, and what will come next. If they do a new series, what do you think/hope it would be like?
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1 Future of Ben 10 17th May 2014, 12:18 pm
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2 Re: Future of Ben 10 17th May 2014, 2:07 pm
PeruAlonso
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Here are my hopes for a possible 5th Ben 10 series.
1. Greg Weisman being a director for the show itself.
2. Ben being a 17 or 18 year old.
3. Ben's attitude being 50% cocky and 50% mature.
4. Jeff Bennett voicing Azmuth again.
5. Ben having the master control in the Omnitrix.
6. Gwen and Kevin getting married.
7. More Ben and Kai moments. (Hey, I actually support BenKai)
8. Charmcaster being an ally in Ben's team.
9. Voices from familiar actors like Will Friedle.
10. No bad luck for Ben.
1. Greg Weisman being a director for the show itself.
2. Ben being a 17 or 18 year old.
3. Ben's attitude being 50% cocky and 50% mature.
4. Jeff Bennett voicing Azmuth again.
5. Ben having the master control in the Omnitrix.
6. Gwen and Kevin getting married.
7. More Ben and Kai moments. (Hey, I actually support BenKai)
8. Charmcaster being an ally in Ben's team.
9. Voices from familiar actors like Will Friedle.
10. No bad luck for Ben.
3 Re: Future of Ben 10 17th May 2014, 2:09 pm
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I'm getting really tired of Ben not having control of the Omnitrix. It's getting REALLY old. I would like Ben to be older, and a bunch of other stuff, but mainly what I want is for the series to get dark again, like the first 2 seasons of Ultimate Alien.
4 Re: Future of Ben 10 17th May 2014, 6:58 pm
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Master Control Ben just seems too powerful IMO. That(and marketing) might be why he's now been kept 16 for an incredibly long amount of time, since canonically he's supposed to get Master Control when 18. Him frequently getting the wrong transformation is somewhat old, but I think I'd prefer to see him get a weaker version of Master Control.
As for the darker tone, I think the ideal Ben 10 would be able to have an episode like Catch A Falling Star and Collect This without either one feeling out of place.
As for the darker tone, I think the ideal Ben 10 would be able to have an episode like Catch A Falling Star and Collect This without either one feeling out of place.
5 Re: Future of Ben 10 17th May 2014, 8:08 pm
painlee
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i want the next series to be less cartoony ,relies more on aliens that have less appearances and less of Four Arms,Humungousaur,Cannonbolt and XLR8.
Master Control would make Ben a Marty Stu since he would have a alien for every situation,plus i kind of like wend he have to come whit ideas and be creative wend a wrong alien get chosen.
Master Control would make Ben a Marty Stu since he would have a alien for every situation,plus i kind of like wend he have to come whit ideas and be creative wend a wrong alien get chosen.
6 Re: Future of Ben 10 17th May 2014, 8:57 pm
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I'm hoping in the next series that Ben ages to be a little older, I don't care if he's 17, and that they stop pushing Ben to becoming a Plumber instead of a superhero like they have in Omniverse.
Also that they keep Rook in the series so that Ben doesn't have to get a new team (for the third time) and I also like that idea.
For future stuff, I'm hoping OV ends up having a good final season and a proper finale unlike UA, since UA was more of a season finale.
As for the movie that was announced in 2011, I hope it comes out around 2016-2018 and production begins in 2015. All I gotta say from here
Also that they keep Rook in the series so that Ben doesn't have to get a new team (for the third time) and I also like that idea.
For future stuff, I'm hoping OV ends up having a good final season and a proper finale unlike UA, since UA was more of a season finale.
As for the movie that was announced in 2011, I hope it comes out around 2016-2018 and production begins in 2015. All I gotta say from here
7 Re: Future of Ben 10 17th May 2014, 10:39 pm
datdude
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Im glad im not alone in my hopes for series 5.
8 Re: Future of Ben 10 18th May 2014, 3:04 am
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i hope they stop using ben
9 Re: Future of Ben 10 18th May 2014, 3:43 am
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Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:i hope they stop using ben
I've actually wondered what a ben-less spinoff might look like.
10 Re: Future of Ben 10 18th May 2014, 6:37 am
painlee
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and i hope they never stop using Ben.Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:i hope they stop using ben
11 Re: Future of Ben 10 18th May 2014, 7:24 pm
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I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
EDIT: I just came to a conclusion that Rath would be a perfect transformation for such a bloody series' make-over.
EDIT: I just came to a conclusion that Rath would be a perfect transformation for such a bloody series' make-over.
12 Re: Future of Ben 10 18th May 2014, 7:55 pm
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The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
EDIT: I just came to a conclusion that Rath would be a perfect transformation for such a bloody series' make-over.
I wouldn't want it gory or anything. I have Game of Thrones for that. I did like it when there was some real suspense, though. Ah, the good ol' days of UAF. I miss them.
13 Re: Future of Ben 10 18th May 2014, 9:24 pm
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The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
EDIT: I just came to a conclusion that Rath would be a perfect transformation for such a bloody series' make-over.
14 Re: Future of Ben 10 19th May 2014, 3:07 am
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The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
EDIT: I just came to a conclusion that Rath would be a perfect transformation for such a bloody series' make-over.
I was thinking more "Young justice" and less 90's image comics
15 Re: Future of Ben 10 19th May 2014, 5:17 am
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I appreciate your constructive criticism.painlee wrote:The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
EDIT: I just came to a conclusion that Rath would be a perfect transformation for such a bloody series' make-over.
16 Re: Future of Ben 10 20th May 2014, 1:23 am
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The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
that sounds pretty awful. when exactly is the internet as a whole going to grow past the notion that dark is synonymous with good? it really isn't. it's not the opposite, of course, but what you're describing sounds like a tryhard approach at being MATURE. even uaf stayed kind of reasonable when dwelling into darker stuff (except for to catch a falling star. that was also a pretty tryhard approach at being MATURE, and i hope we never get anything like that ever again)
anyway yeah definitely need to stop using ben. if not altogether, at least this ben, or at least this continuity. it's pretty obvious by now that the franchise is saddled with way too much and that pretty much nothing satisfies fanboys anymore when stuff is reinterpreted (whether it be os>uaf, os>ov or uaf>ov) so shedding that and starting over from a different angle would be the way to go, i think. the franchise's going to be entering its tenth year next year, i think it's probably the time for a reboot
17 Re: Future of Ben 10 20th May 2014, 4:27 am
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Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
that sounds pretty awful. when exactly is the internet as a whole going to grow past the notion that dark is synonymous with good? it really isn't. it's not the opposite, of course, but what you're describing sounds like a tryhard approach at being MATURE. even uaf stayed kind of reasonable when dwelling into darker stuff (except for to catch a falling star. that was also a pretty tryhard approach at being MATURE, and i hope we never get anything like that ever again)
anyway yeah definitely need to stop using ben. if not altogether, at least this ben, or at least this continuity. it's pretty obvious by now that the franchise is saddled with way too much and that pretty much nothing satisfies fanboys anymore when stuff is reinterpreted (whether it be os>uaf, os>ov or uaf>ov) so shedding that and starting over from a different angle would be the way to go, i think. the franchise's going to be entering its tenth year next year, i think it's probably the time for a reboot
Yes i think that after the big rrlaunch that Batman have with Nolan, and how "dark" that was, a lot of people became assholes, taking out all the good stuff of the superheroes... Batman is Dark because he is dark, but Superman is not dark, Flash cant be dark have to be funny, Iron Man cant be dark, the guardians of the galaxy...
What i try to say is that Ben 10 wasnt create like a dark series, later Af and UA killed all the created before and i dont know about how intrigue are you talking about, because i dont see any episode of AF or UA that have a little bit of intrigue, gore, strong actions or even darkness, in some kind of way somethings was way to more for childrens that before and a lot of thing dont have sense.
So to my the only Dark and Mature episode of Ben 10 (tha was OMG way too bad and way to out to the general tone of the episodes) is "Catching a Falling Star"... For me Ben is good with what he have now, a cool open Omnitrix that for a while could give to him any alien and new adventures.
For a 5 series i think the best is to make Derrick stay, make a little bit more mature ben with 17 years old and all new adventures...
18 Re: Future of Ben 10 20th May 2014, 5:15 am
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That was a pretty good episode. Simple examination of a character and interesting reinterpretation of a beforehand lackluster villain. Deaths just added a bit of suspense to what could've otherwise been the usual plots with no real sense of danger at times. I think it also helps that it's a unique episode - others made like it might ruin it though I'm not sure. Shame they probably won't be allowed to make something like that again and Omniverse definitely couldn't.
Ben 10 can never really go into the realm of bad grimdark stuff so long as the censors are in effect. The show doesn't need to be darker though a broader spectrum of possible episodes would be better as I said already - being a smarter series generally has the intended effect people who want blood and the such are aiming for. The original wasn't exactly dark but still had some captivating and mature elements and a good balance.
Ben 10 can never really go into the realm of bad grimdark stuff so long as the censors are in effect. The show doesn't need to be darker though a broader spectrum of possible episodes would be better as I said already - being a smarter series generally has the intended effect people who want blood and the such are aiming for. The original wasn't exactly dark but still had some captivating and mature elements and a good balance.
19 Re: Future of Ben 10 20th May 2014, 1:17 pm
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I never stated it's good. It's just my opinion. Oh, that's right, this is the internet. You say your opinion and people are just face-palming all over the place or saying how sh*tty it is.Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
that sounds pretty awful. when exactly is the internet as a whole going to grow past the notion that dark is synonymous with good? it really isn't.
20 Re: Future of Ben 10 21st May 2014, 1:44 am
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The Wolf wrote:I never stated it's good. It's just my opinion. Oh, that's right, this is the internet. You say your opinion and people are just face-palming all over the place or saying how sh*tty it is.Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
that sounds pretty awful. when exactly is the internet as a whole going to grow past the notion that dark is synonymous with good? it really isn't.
ok? sorry for disagreeing with your opinion and replying with a different one, bro.
21 Re: Future of Ben 10 21st May 2014, 6:49 am
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I don't think you understood what I meant, but whatever. Let's finish this nonsense. It will be better for all of us.Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:The Wolf wrote:I never stated it's good. It's just my opinion. Oh, that's right, this is the internet. You say your opinion and people are just face-palming all over the place or saying how sh*tty it is.Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
that sounds pretty awful. when exactly is the internet as a whole going to grow past the notion that dark is synonymous with good? it really isn't.
ok? sorry for disagreeing with your opinion and replying with a different one, bro.
22 Re: Future of Ben 10 21st May 2014, 11:40 pm
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The Wolf wrote:I don't think you understood what I meant, but whatever. Let's finish this nonsense. It will be better for all of us.Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:The Wolf wrote:I never stated it's good. It's just my opinion. Oh, that's right, this is the internet. You say your opinion and people are just face-palming all over the place or saying how sh*tty it is.Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:The Wolf wrote:I'd hope for it to be much more dark, somewhat like an anime, with blood, characters dying brutal deaths, sick plot twists and stuff. But of course that's not possible due to Ben 10 being a kids show.
that sounds pretty awful. when exactly is the internet as a whole going to grow past the notion that dark is synonymous with good? it really isn't.
ok? sorry for disagreeing with your opinion and replying with a different one, bro.
uh huh
23 Re: Future of Ben 10 22nd May 2014, 1:31 am
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If a future Ben 10 series were to have a TV PG rating like some cartoon network shows it would allow the producers and writers more creative freedom.
24 Re: Future of Ben 10 22nd May 2014, 1:55 am
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Yes, that would be so much better, or be more like: TV PG VL, the language part is impossible but they have managed to do PG V before with Generator Rex, Young Justice, and Star Warsultraalien wrote:If a future Ben 10 series were to have a TV PG rating like some cartoon network shows it would allow the producers and writers more creative freedom.
25 Re: Future of Ben 10 22nd May 2014, 2:05 am
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They also done this with two Ben 10 movies and a Generator Rex Ben 10 crossover but the L part is not going to happen So I think cartoon network can get away with a TV PG rating for Ben 10.Ebomnitrix wrote:Yes, that would be so much better, or be more like: TV PG VL, the language part is impossible but they have managed to do PG V before with Generator Rex, Young Justice, and Star Warsultraalien wrote:If a future Ben 10 series were to have a TV PG rating like some cartoon network shows it would allow the producers and writers more creative freedom.
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